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Post by roddy on Apr 12, 2007 7:11:44 GMT -5
Just what is the point of him hanging about? He adds nothing to the storylines. I mean he got all of 2 mins of screen time in last night episode.
I hope the writers are keeping him about for a big storyline or maybe he will now have a bigger part to play because Kav is gone. I just dont see what he brings to the show anymore.
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Post by Inside Man on Apr 12, 2007 11:00:51 GMT -5
roddy, this is a good question. After that big confrontation with Vic in "On the Jones," I was wondering to myself what possible scenario could bring those two together again. The Shield so often is about those backdoor deals, ear whispering, guarded trust, and political maneuverings. I cannot, for the life of me, forsee any situation that would send Vic to Aceveda looking for some help.
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Post by electroshockblues on Apr 14, 2007 5:51:16 GMT -5
He's Vic's nemesis, and has been since day one. As Vic's nemesis, he needs to be around until the end of the show IMHO.
Though the reason for his appearances in some episodes have been a little tenuous, as if the writers are shoe-horning the character in just for the sake of it, he's still relevant to the show simply due to the history he has with Vic and the barn. The Vic/Aceveda relationship is very important to the show, and there's still a lot of unresolved plot as regards his deal with Antwon to have Juan killed.
He was massively important in S5. The Vic/Kavanaugh/Aceveda triangle was critical in setting up the circumstances of Lem's death.
Even as a huge fan of the character I wouldn't want him on the show if he no longer had any purpose, but I'm convinced that the writers will make great use of him - especially towards the very end of the series.
What I hope to see in S7 is Aceveda running for mayor as Vic's crimes start to come to light. This will hopefully make the Vic/Aceveda relationship more important than ever, as Aceveda finally has to make the decision whether to help Vic cover up his crimes so that it doesn't look like he was fostering corruption during his tenure as captain, or do everything he can to take him down in revenge for Terry, regardless of how this makes him look politically. Hopefully, this will be complicated by the return of the Antwon/Juan connection.
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Post by ktjzm on Apr 14, 2007 10:49:41 GMT -5
Aceveda is still on the police commitee looking into Vic and he still has ties with Claudette and the barn and how things go. Last episode proved that when he came to tell Claudette things aren't looking good for her with Wilshire district hanging there crimes on farmingtons doorstep. There is a higher purpose to his being on the show and it just might take a while for the story line to get to him. Right now there concentrating on vic getting revenge on lems killer. It will come out though eventually why they keep Aceveda on the show. They just can't fade him out with all his involvement with Vic and Antwon and the whole Jaun story. I think in the end it will all be wrapped up package with a nice bow on top.
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Post by anothershieldfan on Apr 14, 2007 14:56:40 GMT -5
I agree. I think he may play a later role. I also think he adds a guiding force for Claudette as she is acclimated to her new position. He is helping her do that by making her aware of the higher politics she's not aware of (for his own reasons of course). For example, how the other police chiefs pinned her with the body count.
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Post by mizzoutigers16 on Apr 14, 2007 22:57:26 GMT -5
What I want to know is if they are ever going to bring up the Juan/suck pictures again. If that was the end of that storyline then I think it was all just for media attention. i will be thoroughly disappointed if when he runs for mayor, or whatever he does in season 7, if those pictures do not come back to haunt him.
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Post by -|E|- on Apr 14, 2007 23:19:16 GMT -5
There was 1 picture on a cell phone that Juan never downloaded. Aceveda erased it. Juan and his friend are both dead. The girlfriend doesn't have a picture and only knows whatever Juan told her. The picture is not coming back. * I * will be the one thouroughly disappointed if the picture surfaces after all this time; it would be too soap-opera-like, and I don't think the writers will go there.
And what media attention?? It was pretty much ignored outside The Shield fanbase. Besides, the writers on this show don't do things for media attention - they do them to service the storylines.
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Post by axeman61 on Apr 15, 2007 3:14:40 GMT -5
Yeah, I think the picture is out too. I just wouldn't be that disappointed if it was brought back in. Not that I want it, but I have faith in the writers if they decide to push it (though Acevada gave clear reason why Juan wouldn't show it or make copies).
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Post by electroshockblues on Apr 15, 2007 9:25:55 GMT -5
Exactly.
The 'picture' issue is dead. The only surviving element of the whole Juan plot is Antwon.
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Post by vicmikey on Apr 15, 2007 12:34:16 GMT -5
dont forget guys, shawn ryan himself has said that season six takes soo much time focusing on the aftermath of lems death that he decided to do season 7 mainly to focus not only on what happens to vic, but the other core characters of the show. So i'd say if your watching the show for aceveda right now, your probably going to have to wait for the final season to see where that character really goes.
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Post by kingoffarmington on Apr 15, 2007 12:59:27 GMT -5
the picture does not exist.
i think we'll get more Acevada eventually, they just got a lot going on right now. they always use him the right way, just not directly. but I hope he gets his own story again.
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Post by eekay on Apr 15, 2007 13:01:59 GMT -5
Except that Aceveda is involved in the aftermath of Lem's death. He shares some responsibility in making Shane think that Lem had turned on the Strike Team; he has been charged with using Lem's heroin bust and subsequent run from the law as an example of the "old, bad" way of doing things which he is now supposed to change; if anyone is left in IAD who thinks that Kavanaugh actually had a case against Vic Mackey before he let it get personal, they may also suspect, as Kavanaugh did, that Aceveda was complicit in Mackey's shady deals when he, Aceveda, was captain. Not to mention the dynamic with Claudette as she flounders (or is sunk) in her new job. Is he really trying to help her? Is he trying to help her in order to make her indebted to him for something? Is he leading her on with the design of stabbing her in the back later? Is he merely sitting on the fence until he knows which tactic will work out best for him? Who knows? It's Aceveda. What I'm saying is that there are plenty of ways that he could be involved in this season's drama that have nothing to do with Juan or Antwon Mitchell.
On an aside to electroshockblues: Love the avatar. A couple of months ago chemikalman and I had a little discussion about Aceveda on the Season 3 boards (the thread is "Bought all of Season 3"), in the course of which I mentioned how it always kills me when Aceveda goes out into the field with the other cops, because he's always the easiest one to spot in an aerial view or wide shot --easier, even, than Vic with his bald head and bulldog physique. You always know where Aceveda is because he's dressed either in the only uniform that looks like it's just come out of the package, or he's wearing a dress shirt ironed within an inch of its life and so blindingly white you could see it from space. Your avatar beautifully illustrates that last point. Good thing Aceveda hasn't had any snipers gunning for him (yet), huh? He'd be a pretty easy target. . .
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Post by mizzoutigers16 on Apr 15, 2007 18:54:04 GMT -5
There was 1 picture on a cell phone that Juan never downloaded. Aceveda erased it. Juan and his friend are both dead. The girlfriend doesn't have a picture and only knows whatever Juan told her. The picture is not coming back. * I * will be the one thouroughly disappointed if the picture surfaces after all this time; it would be too soap-opera-like, and I don't think the writers will go there. And what media attention?? It was pretty much ignored outside The Shield fanbase. Besides, the writers on this show don't do things for media attention - they do them to service the storylines. Media attention wa son the show when that happened, because that season was when I started watching the shield. Media attention aside I meant for the shock value of it that gets people talking about the show. And I love the shield as much as anyone, but it is naive to think that the writers of television shows, any show, ever just do things, especially like have the male police captain raped, to simply further the story lines and not also to get people talking about the show to drum up interest and ratings.
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Post by anothershieldfan on Apr 15, 2007 19:24:30 GMT -5
Nice outline of some of his angles in the show. I agree, I think Aceveda does play into many facets of the show both directly and indirectly. He adds elements to both sides of the fence, against Vic and against himself. He is the good-cop bad-cop role by himself, seeking to do justice and possibly justice will seek him. I'll enjoy watching it play out over the rest of the Series.
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Post by eekay on Apr 15, 2007 21:28:09 GMT -5
An excellent observation, anothershieldfan.
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Post by BringBackTavon on Apr 18, 2007 16:12:00 GMT -5
I agree with roddy, Aceveda doesn't seem to serve much of a purpose without a direct investigation of Vic, we will see how it works out, but for someone who hopes to run for mayor it does seem a bit odd that he is spending so much time around the Barn...
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Post by SMOKE-DOG on Apr 18, 2007 16:18:29 GMT -5
Isn't he on the Police Commission? He also may be trying to keep the skeletons in his closet from resurfacing.
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Post by BringBackTavon on Apr 18, 2007 16:29:17 GMT -5
I think he is actually the cochair of the Police Commission, but it is the Los Angeles police commision, not the Farmington Police Commision. He is still spending a little too much time in Farmington when he should also be throughout Los Angeles.
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Post by themadchinaman on Apr 21, 2007 9:25:21 GMT -5
He is also still a Police reserve officer and uses that for his publicity photes. He also uses the Bard to manipulate his position on the police commitee.
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Post by BringBackTavon on Apr 21, 2007 9:54:57 GMT -5
He is also still a Police reserve officer and uses that for his publicity photes. He also uses the Bard to manipulate his position on the police commitee. I believe, and I may be wrong, that when Kavanaugh said that he was going to be investigating Aceveda as well as the Strike Team Aceveda quit the police reserves...
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