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Post by Jan El Señor on Nov 16, 2005 13:14:45 GMT -5
It's obvious Vic has made some bad choices and he doesn't always handle things in the best way. But I've got to say that the one thing he's done right is the way he's dealt with his kids through all the conflict he's had with Corrine. No matter how much they've fought, he still expects and tells his kids to respect and obey their mother. He's never tried to use his kids to get back at her (like Tommy in Rescue Me), and the same can't be said for her. The only time he seemed like he might be doing that is when he took Cassidy to live with him, but I think he was honestly trying to do the right thing. When he saw that his example was making Cassidy view her mother negatively in season 4, you could see how awful that made him feel. I really admire Vic for that because it would be so easy to let anger make him act differently. If there's one instance where Vic does the right thing, I think it's here....
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Post by qb on Nov 28, 2005 18:08:16 GMT -5
Not sure this belongs here but I didn't want to start a new thread...
Here's what is on my mind... the more I have seen of Vic, the less I am buying the murder of Terry! Vic has a soft side that, in the last four yrs, always seeks the kinder way out. Don't you think? He has just never seemed as vicious as he was when he shot Terry. Like with Gilroy. Why didn't he just kill that m--f--? Why such loyalty to a guy who could've brought them all down?
Sometimes I even forget about Terry. Vic can be funny and he's sure a problem solver... but he shot another cop in the face! Left a widow to grieve him. Murdered a guy who was just doing his job. And the subsequent Vic doesn't make me believe he'd do that. Am I the only one having these "late in the game" doubts?
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Post by slickvic on Nov 28, 2005 19:10:37 GMT -5
I thought he should have shot Gilroy as soon as they caught him with the tape recorder....that pissed me off so much!
But for Terry, are you denying that she was murdered by Vic, or are you saying its just hard to believe he would do that?
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Post by Jan El Señor on Nov 28, 2005 21:06:58 GMT -5
Not sure this belongs here but I didn't want to start a new thread...
Here's what is on my mind... the more I have seen of Vic, the less I am buying the murder of Terry! Vic has a soft side that, in the last four yrs, always seeks the kinder way out. Don't you think? He has just never seemed as vicious as he was when he shot Terry. Like with Gilroy. Why didn't he just kill that m--f--? Why such loyalty to a guy who could've brought them all down?
Sometimes I even forget about Terry. Vic can be funny and he's sure a problem solver... but he shot another cop in the face! Left a widow to grieve him. Murdered a guy who was just doing his job. And the subsequent Vic doesn't make me believe he'd do that. Am I the only one having these "late in the game" doubts? I don't have these doubts.... Remember, Terry was an outsider that Vic put his trust in and fully intended to be a full member of the Strike Team. It was after this that he found out Terry was a rat who could put them all away. The main difference with the Gilroy situation is a), Vic has regrets about what he did to Terry even though he believes it had to be done, and b), he has been friends with Gilroy for something like over 15 years. Even Shane understands that Vic has a "soft spot" for Gilroy because of their "history" when anyone else in his shoes would have probably been killed. Vic doesn't want to let himself be put in a situation where something like the Terry incident would happen again which is why he was so cautious about Tavon being on the Team. He even told Aceveda that if he could change what happened that night with Terry, he would. I think he wishes it didn't have to happen, but he feels he wasn't careful enough about trusting Terry before he let him on the Team. Vic will rationalize anything he does, in my opinion, if he feels he's protecting the other Strike Team members. This is because he feels he has to protect them from situations that he's created. He murdered Margos for the same reason.... Some other points I just thought of... It could also be argued that Terry wasn't just doing his job. He volunteered to rat out Vic and send the Team to jail for his own personal gain, while pretending to loyal, etc... Gilroy was a sorry drunk who was being bribed with being sent back to prison if he didn't try to get Vic to talk about Terry's death. Also, if Gilroy ended up dead, they didn't have the opportunity to cover it up like they did with Terry, and Vic would have been the first suspect. All these things together with the more personal nature of Vic's relationship with Gilroy, I think contribute to why Terry was killed and Gilroy wasn't....
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Ghost
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Post by Ghost on Dec 9, 2005 4:50:09 GMT -5
Plain and simple:
He is compassionate.
There are so many example of his compassion just think for a second and you will come up with a few I bet.
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