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Post by twistedjustice on Mar 21, 2007 18:12:16 GMT -5
this is nothing personal against alex oloughlin, but i think its stupid to bring in a completely new character for the strike team, and from what has been posted before, he might be a replacement for vic, i think its all together stupid, what does everyone else think
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Post by Strike Team 4 Life on Mar 21, 2007 19:51:58 GMT -5
I understand what you're saying.... I have thought this about other characters and plots in The Shield. I'm the kind of person who says that if it ain't broken, don't fix it but however.....The Shield hasn't let me down yet so I have faith in Shawn Ryan to make this character a good fit.
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Post by ShootFirst on Mar 21, 2007 22:06:05 GMT -5
I understand what you're saying.... I have thought this about other characters and plots in The Shield. I'm the kind of person who says that if it ain't broken, don't fix it but however.....The Shield hasn't let me down yet so I have faith in Shawn Ryan to make this character a good fit. I agree with what you say. Things with this guy, meaning how he is incorporated into the mix, will have to be done right and could very well be screwed up. But the Brass haven't failed us yet. It will definitely make for some interesting material to see how he plays out.
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Post by aussieangel on Mar 21, 2007 22:38:26 GMT -5
There's always a new face about the place, Tina, Tevon, the decoy squad, Kav, Monica Rawlings, probably more that I can't think of, the impact of the new faces has been huge in some cases and not so big in others. I'm sure the writers will do a damn good job of getting Alex O'loughlin in there... and dammit he's aussie so he has to be good right.... mate? I would so love to see him in the kitchen spreading some vegemite on bread or toast or something and being paid out on by Vic....
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Post by chemikalman on Mar 21, 2007 23:07:23 GMT -5
Gee, that's a little harsh considering we haven't seen him yet! I mean, Tavon and Army were pretty cool, weren't they?
Now, if he tries to spread vegemite on bread he might just get a blanket party. But, aussie, I gotta hand it to you, you did manage to get vegemite into your post pretty cleverly!
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Post by electroshockblues on Mar 22, 2007 8:21:04 GMT -5
Just to clarify, when its been said that Kevin Hiatt (O'Loughlin's character) is intended as a replacement for Vic, they only mean that he might replace Vic as Strike Team leader, not as main character of the show.
I only say this because I don't understand why anyone would be upset about Vic possibly being replaced as ST leader by a new guy. It makes perfect sense, plot-wise. Vic's facing forced retirement, and Claudette will want to take advantage of this by bringing someone from outside of Vic's sphere of influence (i.e. the Barn) to "clean up" the ST. She knows about what the ST have got up to in the past. She's wouldn't just hand the reigns over to Shane or Ronnie.
Hell, it wouldn't surprise me if part of Claudette's reasoning for putting Julien on the team are that Shane couldn't abide working with a gay black man.
The one thing I will concede is that the idea is a little played out. We've already had the "new guy on the ST" problem twice in the past with Terry and Tavon. Three times if you count Army. Naturally though, I've faith in the writers that they won't repeat themselves.
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Post by danimal12483 on Mar 22, 2007 18:04:40 GMT -5
Gee, that's a little harsh considering we haven't seen him yet! I mean, Tavon and Army were pretty cool, weren't they? Now, if he tries to spread vegemite on bread he might just get a blanket party. But, aussie, I gotta hand it to you, you did manage to get vegemite into your post pretty cleverly! i disagree, army was a moron and i hated him. he's a punk. don't know if the new guy will be alright or not. but really, after all thats been happening with the team, i'm not surprised claudette would bring in a replacement for vic. now that will be a great story line to me. it will be cool how vic deals with him.
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Post by stealingjoy on Mar 23, 2007 18:13:06 GMT -5
The Shield has never let me down on anything they have ever done. I have zero doubt in my mind that the integration of Hiatt into the storyline will be pulled off perfectly. These people are gods amongst men and women!
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Post by chemikalman on Mar 23, 2007 20:11:14 GMT -5
i disagree, army was a moron and i hated him. he's a punk. don't know if the new guy will be alright or not. but really, after all thats been happening with the team, i'm not surprised claudette would bring in a replacement for vic. now that will be a great story line to me. it will be cool how vic deals with him. Electroshockblues brings up good points about why Claudette would want to bring in a replacement for Vic as ST leader. As far as Army is concerned, what was your beef with him? He came back from Iraq where he was dealing with the kind of enemy that makes punk gangbangers look tame in comparison. Plus, I get the impression he not only saw a few rules being bent or ignored, he did it himself and felt justified, given the "enemy" and the circumstances. Sound familiar? All that gave him the right background and "attitude" to fit in well with the ST. What was not to like about him?
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Post by ktjzm on Mar 24, 2007 8:20:41 GMT -5
IN the end though army only thought of himself and didn't do the lie detector test and he had no loyalty to the strike team. Isn't that what the strike team is all about is there loyalty to each other and having each others backs. If you think about it Shane was thinking of the team as a whole and seeing lem leave was not an option. Bringing in a new strike team member has always been an issue. Trying to put new member in to take over Vic's spot will not go well and it is just a new twist on trying to make new team member work. Julian on the strike team will go about as well with Shane as Tevon did. He is gay and he was the one that tried to rat out the team way back when. Shane would be so paranoid it will make for a new twist on the same story line they have tried in the past. That they have always had to look over there shoulders at either gang members or a rat amongst them.
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Post by chemikalman on Mar 24, 2007 9:01:06 GMT -5
IN the end though army only thought of himself and didn't do the lie detector test and he had no loyalty to the strike team. Isn't that what the strike team is all about is there loyalty to each other and having each others backs. If you think about it Shane was thinking of the team as a whole and seeing lem leave was not an option. Bringing in a new strike team member has always been an issue. Trying to put new member in to take over Vic's spot will not go well and it is just a new twist on trying to make new team member work. Julian on the strike team will go about as well with Shane as Tevon did. He is gay and he was the one that tried to rat out the team way back when. Shane would be so paranoid it will make for a new twist on the same story line they have tried in the past. That they have always had to look over there shoulders at either gang members or a rat amongst them. You make some good points. Yes, was all about loyalty with the ST. Note the past tense. Actually, I think Julien on the ST will go over far less well than Tavon. And I think that's exactly what's gonna happen with the new guy ... Vic and Shane will be looking over their shoulders every step of the way. These changes are going to make Claudette look just like we thought she would: a crusader who will turn out to be a great example of the business world's "Peter Principle", which says that people will keep getting promoted until they reach their level of incompetency.
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Post by Blanket Party on Apr 4, 2007 0:31:19 GMT -5
I'm willing to give the character a shot. Given the events that we've seen in the premiere already, it completely makes sense that Claudette would want to try and steer the most controversial team in the department towards a less shady image.
And it gives Vic an adversary to deal with on the team, as well. You've got someone gunning for Vic on the outside - business as usual - but now he can't even find even a brief solace from that in what's left of his team. Vic's getting pushed out from all sides now, and surely he's gonna start to suffocate.
I say bring it on.
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Post by jray on Apr 6, 2007 16:09:10 GMT -5
This story line is kind of a hybrid of Terry and Tevon if it indeed includes a potential replacement for Vic. If we all think WAY back to I believe the pilot, Aceveda cons his way into getting Terry on the team because he didn't like Vic's reputation and sold Terry as a good cop who could, "Eventually take over the team if Mackey falls on his face."
Thing is, Terry could NEVER have been the leader Vic was, so there was never a power struggle there. Shane struggled with Tevon because of his color, and the fact that he felt like Vic was becoming fast friends w/ Tevon, and didn't want to see their commradery affected.
When it's all said and done, no one will ever be able to replace Vic - and the kind of changes they're looking at making are evident of a new era...in all honesty, if the new characters were developed well enough, The Shield could continue to exist w/o Mackey, Shane, or Ronnie. Isn't that scary?
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Post by scorpsik on Apr 10, 2007 2:52:06 GMT -5
New blood, new conflicts, new agends....As others have said, the Shield has never let me down. I look forward to seeing what the new guy brings to the mix.
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Post by ktjzm on Apr 10, 2007 8:46:46 GMT -5
Anyone see the ad where Vic is telling everyone what to do and Alex says who is in charge here. That is going to be the thing that will be the most interesting because Julien will prob follow Alex and Ronnie will be loyal to Vic and right now Vic and Ronnie are gunning for Lems killer and I think Shane is going to be the guy in the middle not knowing which way to turn or who to listen to it might the beginnning of the splitting up of the stike team and Shane is going to face some hard decisions. Last year we lost Lem maybe this year we are going to lose Shane and has anyone ever wondered if it would be Shane being pinched by IAD if he would hold out as well as Lem he has always been the mouthy one and thinking about himself. He almost got them in trouble in the first episode this yr by saying that Lem had cut a new deal. Made Claudette look and the look from Ronnie and Vic was just as bad. He can't control his mouth or his emotions. I also saw the previews of Kav and Dutch are interviewing Shane in the interrogation room I am just waiting to see if he wavers. I just feel his emotions are going to get the better of him and his head isn't in the game and he is going to say something and it is going to get everyone thinking. What do you think?
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Post by BringBackTavon on Apr 18, 2007 16:27:11 GMT -5
storyline wise the addition of Kevin Haitt (Alex O'Loughlin's character) makes perfect sense, as does bringing Julien aboard, Claudette is trying to clean up the image of the Barn, and Vic is retiring, the Strike Team is a real CRASH unit and with Vic gone they need a new Detective in charge...Vic thought that it would be Shane (based on what he said in 6x01) but there is no way that is happening...
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