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Post by blade on Jan 11, 2006 2:35:22 GMT -5
damn i hate this new jon kavanaugh character. just when u thought the strike team were gettin back together and start doin good again, this jackass comes in lol. i hope he dies. actually, i hope vic beats him at his own game because then we can all see jon's ugly face when he finds out vic is smarter than he is. hahahAHAHAHAHHA
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Post by slimjim1118 on Jan 11, 2006 9:15:33 GMT -5
enen though jon is out for vic i think he'll need him if aceveda goes sideways.
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Post by tylerdurden on Jan 11, 2006 9:30:36 GMT -5
no way they team up, and acevada doesn't break. juicy fruit? freshpacked
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Post by twistedjustice on Jan 11, 2006 13:45:03 GMT -5
im glad to see that other people dont like him as well. everybody in all the other threads are praising him, and sayin that hes awesome. i do think forest whitaker is doing a good job because i hate the character. I just especially hated how shawn ryan said that people are gonna like kavanaugh, and that hes gonna be the hero of this season, that pissed me off
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Post by blade on Jan 12, 2006 2:31:15 GMT -5
yea...vic is the only hero for me. jon is just a douche bag. he's like that fcken kid in the 1st grade that tattles on everybody. little bastard...lol. well i hate his character...especially with his stupid little gum trick. WHAT IF A PERSON JUST LIKES GUM!?!?! well neways, i hope he doesn't end up being a hero...he's such a jackass with his cheesy grin. makes me want to get up and punch my television everytime i see him.,,
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Post by Dead Armenian on Jan 12, 2006 7:24:23 GMT -5
LOL Fprest Whitaker is on his way to an emmy if he can act people into this much anger!!!
I tip my hat to Ryan and Chiklis for keeping site of the fact that Terry's death was an evil thing (check out the post with Chiklis being interviewed about S5). Vic is so charismatic that I find myself wanting him to get away with everything...but he committed a murder every bit as bad as some of the low life stuff he contends with on the street. It would be too convenient to just let Terry's death slip away as "that shocking scene at the end of S1".
So, I have mixed emotions about Kavanaugh - I want to cover Vic's behind, but I also know that Kavanaugh is doing the right thing. That kind of tension is what hooks me about TS.
Now blade, when you have those urges, just keep saying, "My TV is my friend...my TV is my friend..." (especially if you have a flat screen or some other pricey gadget...you'll really hate yourself in the morning if you break it!)
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Post by tylerdurden on Jan 12, 2006 9:43:45 GMT -5
if someone likes gum, then he cant do the trick, they have to dney the gum the first time, then end up being convinced to take it, ike mackeys wife did, a bad sense of foreshadowing
also although we all like mackey- he did KILL A COP, and was responsible for many deaths over the course of the show, so i dont see how anyone can really be pissed at jon for trying to go after mackey
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Post by blade on Jan 12, 2006 14:56:05 GMT -5
terry was a snitch. He deserved to die. He tried to act like he was loyal to the ST...I hate 2 timers like him. Vic had to kill him to protect his team. In the end, Vic would do more good if ppl would just leave him alone.
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Post by tylerdurden on Jan 14, 2006 0:38:27 GMT -5
not really, acevada didnt have a close enough of a watch of him and the team during the money train days, and a lot of people died because of it. and no matter what u say, no matter who you are, you cant kill a cop just because theyre "a snitch"
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Post by Blanket Party on Jan 16, 2006 14:51:34 GMT -5
terry was a snitch. He deserved to die. He tried to act like he was loyal to the ST...I hate 2 timers like him. Vic had to kill him to protect his team. In the end, Vic would do more good if ppl would just leave him alone. Vic is a dirty cop, Terry is a clean cop. He wanted to take down a dirty cop...however, he DID do it for some selfish reasons. That doesn't mean he deserves to DIE.
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Post by Cletus Van Damme on Jan 18, 2006 14:24:54 GMT -5
I feel that the whole reopening of the Terry case is being shoved down our throats. Realistically, it has no merit. Vic has gotten away with Terry's murder and there's NO WAY he would ever tell Lem or another living soul the truth.
I can see where Shawn Ryan and co feel that revisiting Vic's 'original sin' may have some sort of poetic justice, but it just doenst hold any water.
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Post by leadinvestigator on Jan 18, 2006 15:00:15 GMT -5
I feel that the whole reopening of the Terry case is being shoved down our throats. Realistically, it has no merit. Vic has gotten away with Terry's murder and there's NO WAY he would ever tell Lem or another living soul the truth. I can see where Shawn Ryan and co feel that revisiting Vic's 'original sin' may have some sort of poetic justice, but it just doenst hold any water. I couldn't disagree more! Murder is murder forever. There is no statute of limitations and this was the first degree murder of a police officer--a "hangin' offense" ie, capital punishment. Vic could certainly, realistically, end up on death row for it. I was surprised Terry's murder went away for as long as it did, but cops never give up on these things. Everyone knows Vic is a dirty cop and if you think cops chase cold cases to the ends of the earth, make the victim one of their own and multiply by ten!
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Post by Cletus Van Damme on Jan 18, 2006 15:08:30 GMT -5
I couldn't disagree more! Murder is murder forever. There is no statute of limitations and this was the first degree murder of a police officer--a "hangin' offense" ie, capital punishment. Vic could certainly, realistically, end up on death row for it. I was surprised Terry's murder went away for as long as it did, but cops never give up on these things. Everyone knows Vic is a dirty cop and if you think cops chase cold cases to the ends of the earth, make the victim one of their own and multiply by ten! Terry's murder went away for as long as it did becuase it was investigated and Vic and co. were cleared. So now, an IAD investigator is after Vic for a murder that he cannot possibly hope to prove... unless he has some help from the screenwriters, that is! The reality is that Vic has gotten away with and the plotline where Vic cant seem to look Lem in the eye and simply lie about it to (a) protect himself and (b) protect Lem just strains credibility. Actually, its closer to silly.
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Post by tylerdurden on Jan 18, 2006 23:50:30 GMT -5
unless at some point shane rolled on him, thats always a possibility, there is no end to what they could use as leverage on shane
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Post by Cletus Van Damme on Jan 19, 2006 1:47:10 GMT -5
unless at some point shane rolled on him, thats always a possibility, there is no end to what they could use as leverage on shane True, but there would still be no proof. Just Shane's word against Vic's. Unless Shane wore a wire and conned Vic into telling him.
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Post by dice on Jan 24, 2006 12:24:27 GMT -5
Clearly, Vic is going to kick Kavenaugh's ass... for talking to Corinne. And, he deserves it.
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Post by ricktheprick on Jan 24, 2006 13:06:37 GMT -5
All I know is that Kavanaugh rules and Rawling drools!
Vic clearly needs an enemy for the show to be exciting, Forest is doing an excellent job with that.
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Post by leadinvestigator on Jan 24, 2006 14:01:24 GMT -5
Clearly, Vic is going to kick Kavenaugh's ass... for talking to Corinne. And, he deserves it. Now what do you mean by "kick K's ass"? Literally? Psychologically? And do you really think Vic will mess with him that way? K's a real threat--someone with the smarts and power to bring Vic down. He's got to play this one very carefully. And I don't think it's going to be that easy. I am counting on Glen and the gang to keep us in suspense and then shock the shit out of us! Glen, I am counting on that...
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Post by dice on Jan 24, 2006 14:08:06 GMT -5
Ok, so Vic might not come right out and beat his ass, but I do think he's going to get up in his face about how he's been talking to Corrine. I could see a shoving match for sure though.
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Post by stovetop on Jan 24, 2006 20:04:19 GMT -5
Terry was a little b**ch but it was nothing to die for. There was no other way to take care of it though. Its either go to prison for sure because of terry, or kill him and ruin the case and get away with the murder. They trusted terry, was a pert of their team, and he turned on them.
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