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Post by qb on Apr 3, 2006 11:51:22 GMT -5
This seems like a likely thread and I am surprised no one has started it already.
So how do you feel about Shane right now?
I disliked him big time last season until he and Vic had that bonding/almost killing each other moment. Once he was back in with Vic, he was charming and funny again....and I forgave that skinny little pr*ck because he's an adorable dork.
Maybe that's why I feel so betrayed that he'd murder Lem? I think I could have handled it better if Ronnie had done it. He's mysterious and this would have been a mind-blower.
Anyway, I want Shane dead by this time next year. You?
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Post by mackdaddy on Apr 3, 2006 13:00:23 GMT -5
I do not want to see Shane die, but he might. I think Vic is reluctantly going to have to bail his scrawny ass out again. Shane can hang Terry's murder over Vic. Shane has done some stupid things over the years, but I always liked the character, volatile, funny, wise cracking, but his loyalty I am concerned with.
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Post by lemonhead on Apr 3, 2006 15:30:39 GMT -5
I hate him, even if I can understand his pathetic action... I also disliked him, at the end of season 3 and until he was back in the strike team. But killing that poor guy on such a cruell way... I do want to see him dead! And not only him! I also want to see the whole strike team and Aceveda dead. That would be the right punnishment for their corruption and all the shit they ever did. Especially after the conscience had to die, they don't deserve it any better. I want the next 10 episodes to be mind blowing and to end with the team & Aceveda getting killed. That's my opinion. No one should be allowed to survive this, what would keep THE SHIELD as a great show with a great end in my mind forever!
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Post by -|E|- on Apr 3, 2006 20:30:46 GMT -5
I'm just still in shock that this has happened. Somedays I'm more accepting of it than others... today not being one of them. I saw a big beautiful blond man out and about today and I wanted to hug him!! But Shane, man... I'm having occasional thoughts of murderous revenge..... I want Shane to pay for this with his life. I want Vic to find out what Shane did to Lem and snap that redneck twig with his bare hands. OK, not his bare hands.... too personal. OK, he shoots that skinny little a**hole, then he and Ronnie can frame some banger for it and stay partners until retirement.
I love Walton Goggins, btw. :* BUT SHANE MUST DIE!
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Post by mackdaddy on Apr 4, 2006 14:45:07 GMT -5
I hate him, even if I can understand his pathetic action... I also disliked him, at the end of season 3 and until he was back in the strike team. But killing that poor guy on such a cruell way... I do want to see him dead! And not only him! I also want to see the whole strike team and Aceveda dead. That would be the right punnishment for their corruption and all the shit they ever did. Especially after the conscience had to die, they don't deserve it any better. I want the next 10 episodes to be mind blowing and to end with the team & Aceveda getting killed. That's my opinion. No one should be allowed to survive this, what would keep THE SHIELD as a great show with a great end in my mind forever! Can't say I hate Shane, but I dislike everything he does on his own. He is nothing without Vic and it has been proven, over and over again. As for seeing the Strike Team and Acevada all die because of what they have done, no way. I want to see Acevada exposed and resign from council in disgrace. As for anything happening to the ST, who are you rooting for? Dutch? Claudette? Sorry, but I waited years for a cop show as real as it gets and the Shield is it. I root for Vic because his end justifies the means. Shane's does not and it may lead to his demise, but when Becca starts singing about what Lem was saying before he died, and Vic and the boys are in the spotlight again, folks could be singing a different tune about Lem.
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Post by icy on Apr 4, 2006 18:46:47 GMT -5
I look back at how difficult it was for Shane to accept the fact that he and Vic had a hand in killing Terry. As much as I love Vic, he was planting a seed in Shane at the time. The team comes first no matter what. The team is family and the code cannot be broken. Shane would do anything for Vic. He made the choice to protect the team the night he killed Lem without Vic's knowledge. It was not something that Shane took lightly. It was probably the hardest thing Shane ever had to do. But, he is loyal to Vic. Vic is Shane's mentor. Lem was a threat to their life and their families. Shane did what he felt he had to do to protect the team. Do I think it is right to turn on one of your best friends? No. But, I also understand why he did what he did. The whole team was acting on information being fed to them by that SNAKE Aceveda and KAV. They should be the ones who pay dearly. I think when Shane discovers that he acted on faulty info., that is going to hurt him. I don't feel he should die. Vic has inadvertently created a monster in Shane.
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Post by candylandgal on Apr 6, 2006 22:05:52 GMT -5
...I disliked him big time last season until he and Vic had that bonding/almost killing each other moment. Once he was back in with Vic, he was charming and funny again....and I forgave that skinny little pr*ck because he's an adorable dork.
Maybe that's why I feel so betrayed that he'd murder Lem?
...Anyway, I want Shane dead by this time next year. You? I'm completely surfing your wavelength, CHIKchick. I think that it was a betrayal on so many levels---from the simple, that Shane took away my beloved Lem, period, down through the how, why, and how if he'd only known Lem as well as I thought he did, he should have known that he had nothing to fear from his 'brother,' and bringing it home with how many times over Shane would have been too dead to do the deed if Lem hadn't looked out for him like he believed Shane would for him in turn, to let Shane's own messes do him in first. Lem was his savior so many times over, and yet he obviously didn't consider that or appreciate what it meant at all to do what he did. The selfishness of robbing Lem of what little life he might have still pulled out of this whole mess to save his own, especially in the face of this almost...naive, child-like faith that Lem had in him...is just so despicable to me that I still see red to think about it too deeply. But you know, there's this underlying other thing that you touched on that snuck up on me in the past week or so---that I'm hurt because I've never 'loved' Shane (adore Walton and his brilliant portrayal, of course) but often 'loved to hate' him. He'd screw up, drag everyone else in, I would curse him up and down a wall---and then let him draw me back in on that level again anyway until I still felt this strange type of love for him that was just one that demanded a ton of patience and forgiveness, sometimes tolerating the otherwise intolerable... And this time I just don't see forgiving him. I think as the rest of the season airs, there will be a play on us to understand his desperation, his fear, how the act destroyed him, and I think he's going to demand forgiveness and acceptance back into that strange form of affection that I held for him---but I just don't think that I can do it. I find myself wishing that I'd never forgiving him after the first twisted act, the second, or the third....because then knowing that I probably won't get past this level of hatred for what he did, for what must be within him that he could do it...it wouldn't hurt so much now. Is it possible that I hurt as much about that as I do about the character (Lem) who I loved to literal death...and feel that his murder of Lem has killed the fragile thread between myself and the Shane character?
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Post by xanthais on Apr 11, 2006 12:36:03 GMT -5
If Vic finds out, one of two things must occur.
Vic will either have to let it go with no repucussions, or........
Vic will have to kill, or have Shane killed. There's NO way Vic can pursue legal action against Shane, because Shane always has Terri's murder on Vic as the trigger-man as his own piece of insurance.
As to hating or loving Shane......I gotta admit, I'm kinda indifferent. I still have the "I can't believe he did that" going on, but I guess maybe because I understand his motives, I can't really say I hate him.
But I agree, the whole ST and Asceveda has to go down. I just don't want Kavenaugh anywhere responsible for it or taking credit. I hate him even more.
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Post by amishmobster on Apr 15, 2006 15:52:13 GMT -5
i have no problem with shane, i don't think he had any choice. i think shane would rather have some freedom for sometime before they catch up to him and the rest of the strike team. who knows shane might have a mental breakdown because of the guilt.
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Post by -|E|- on Apr 15, 2006 22:26:33 GMT -5
House of 1000 Corpses is one of the most disturbing movies of all time, imho. Walton's character gets it, though.... I made it to this scene and had to stop watching. Rob Zombie is a twisted f*ck. Anyway, I thought these pics might be appropriate for this thread.... highlight the text below to read: House of 1000 Corpses (2003) [Walt plays Deputy Steve Naish]: Shot in the head by Bill Moseley in the backyard; shown from a far distance after the camera slowly pans back, and after an extremely long, silent pause of Bill holding the gun to Walton's head. SICK!Walton 1Walton 2
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Post by vicmackey on Jun 5, 2006 19:17:59 GMT -5
My vote is for Shane to die! Hell, let me go on the Shield for an episode and I will do it myself! Then Vic can kill my character!
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Post by ricktheprick on Jun 12, 2006 20:38:57 GMT -5
My vote is for Shane to die! Hell, let me go on the Shield for an episode and I will do it myself! Then Vic can kill my character! Vic created Shane, when he finds out what Shane did, he'll take a long hard look at the environment that Shane was brought up in. Vic will then realize that Shane may have been right, because lets face it Lem was always the weak link.
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Post by Bad_Ass_Cop on Jun 13, 2006 18:29:59 GMT -5
My vote is for Shane to die! Hell, let me go on the Shield for an episode and I will do it myself! Then Vic can kill my character! Vic created Shane, when he finds out what Shane did, he'll take a long hard look at the environment that Shane was brought up in. Vic will then realize that Shane may have been right, because lets face it Lem was always the weak link. I dont think lem was the weak link, I think lem is the only one who has/had a concious. Ronnie maybe, but we dont know that much about him. Shane was trying to be like vic in the begining of season 4 when he and Army were tied up with antwon. Shane made coments like," this is nothing I havent done before" but look where it got him.
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Post by I Adore Ronnie on Jun 13, 2006 21:30:46 GMT -5
I agree. I didn't see Lem as the weak link, rather he knew when they were going too far. He wanted to stop them before they went over the edge and either got themselves caught or killed. He was smart about it. As much as I hate to say it, I think Ronnie and Shane would have both followed Vic to the ends of the Earth. Lem was the only one that wanted boundaries.
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Post by lemgirl on Aug 13, 2006 13:52:11 GMT -5
I do not think Lem was the weak link. He was just the conscience of the team. I hate Shane for what he did but I do not want him to die. Jail time yes. I think Shane is a Vic wannabe. But there is no way Vic would have killed Lem, I think he would have went down with him. I had no idea Walton was in House of 1000 Corpses. I guess I wasn't into the Shield back then or I would have noticed. That's one of my favorite scary movies and The Devil Rejects was also good movie.
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Post by groths on Jan 8, 2007 16:49:38 GMT -5
shane to me is like fredo from the godfather he is weak follower who vic should have killed during season 4 when he got into business with antoine. shane is a screwup every season the screwups get worse.to me it started when they robbed moneytrain and he used clitus van damm as his alias when renting storage space.
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Post by ktjzm on Jan 13, 2007 8:09:34 GMT -5
to me I want kavanaugh dead over shane he drove the strike team apart and he is the run who ultimately killed lem driving shane over the edge with doubt about lems loyalty I will miss seeing lem
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Post by danimal12483 on Mar 20, 2007 22:00:20 GMT -5
as for hatin shane, i dunno. he felt he really had to do kill lem to protect the team. it was casual for him, like it was normal after terry. cause in season 3 when the money train 7 g's disapeared. he asked lem "if vic ever thought me and moira were becomin a problem, you'd let me know, right?" like he thought the team would kill him if they had to. thats just who he is, a murderer. can't really hate em cause he's been a murderer since the begining. vic is too, don't get me wrong, but shane really has no care (he would've wacked gilroy, amoya, cop killa,antwon, margos, am i missin anythone?) but like the fact about him bein devastated about killin lem when he realizes he didn't have to. that will probably make ya like him again, even if only a little. hence, still another season after this one comin. already got one strike tam player down. can't have only 2 main characters completely gone for a whole season, could they?
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Post by ShootFirst on Mar 20, 2007 22:18:52 GMT -5
His character is played to a T and Walt has done some killer work (no pun intended). The direction the writers have taken him is nothing but brilliance. It has sparked discussion and opinions on both sides....what he could've done..what he should've done...what will he do next and how will he ultimately end? One of the major reasons this show has had the success it's had.
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Post by kezza on Sept 7, 2007 13:53:01 GMT -5
Vic couldn't kill Shane cos Shane killed Lem for the sake of the team (not that its an excuse), for Vic to kill Shane over this would be pretty hypocritical
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