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Post by slickvic on Nov 27, 2005 21:36:50 GMT -5
Ok, I have watched the Shield enough to get the grasp of all the characters and the multiple subplots within each episode. I have seen the majority of Seasons 1 and 2, and I have seen parts of 3--but I haven't seen any of 4 and I want to be prepared to watch the season 5 stuff live. So please clarify my assumptions of Season 4 and the end of 3: Lemon burns most of the money from the money train secretly, right?
The Strike Team falls apart, why? Is this because there is dishonesty within the team?
Shane is the most aloof member and becomes extremely corrupt and then attempts to take Vics life, correct?
What happens to Tavon? Is he in Season 4?
Do any of the membes of the old Strike Team die?
Answers to these questions would be appreciated so I can fully appreciate Season 5. I know the answers would be no substitute to watching them, but I just dont have the time before Season 5 starts.
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Post by -|E|- on Nov 27, 2005 22:21:56 GMT -5
Ok, I have watched the Shield enough to get the grasp of all the characters and the multiple subplots within each episode. I have seen the majority of Seasons 1 and 2, and I have seen parts of 3--but I haven't seen any of 4 and I want to be prepared to watch the season 5 stuff live. So please clarify my assumptions of Season 4 and the end of 3: First of all, hello slickvic! I like your nick! #welcomesign# Glad to see you jump right in... I'd like to invite you to post an intro and maybe answer some of the icebreaker Qs....
Season 3 is going to be rerun on FX starting next week (I posted the schedule in the Seasons 1-3 board), so you can get caught up on the eps you missed. He tries to do it secretly, but the guys find him at the incinerator. No, I think the department had to cut funding for the Strike Team and Lem and Shane were reassigned. Sorta yes, sorta no.... I can't go into enough detail here to explain this situation to you.... No, he's not. No.I'm pretty sure FX will also air Season 4 again before S5 starts... I'll post a schedule as soon as I get one.
The S4 DVDs come out the day after Christmas, and S5 doesn't start until Jan. 10.... that gives you about 2 weeks to watch S4!
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Post by slickvic on Nov 28, 2005 0:07:09 GMT -5
Thanks for your response....I know I ought to watch the rest of Season 3 and watch 4 but I hardly have the time...I think I might buy Season 4 when it comes out, but then again, i doubt I will be able to watch before S5. A few more questions, forgive me for my ignorance: So what happens to Tavon? Is the Strike Team back together for S5? If not, all the original members of the ST are still part of the Barn correct? I dont care if you give any spoilers...
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Post by -|E|- on Nov 28, 2005 8:00:35 GMT -5
We hear from Lem that Tavon is doing well with his physical therapy, and that's about it.
Yes, the Strike Team is back together for S5.
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Post by slickvic on Nov 28, 2005 19:07:25 GMT -5
Ive heard from alot of ppl that season 4 isnt any good? Is it worth buying to catch up? Or should I just have the basic idea and begin with Season 5?
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Post by Jan El Señor on Nov 28, 2005 21:29:34 GMT -5
Ive heard from alot of ppl that season 4 isnt any good? Is it worth buying to catch up? Or should I just have the basic idea and begin with Season 5? Season 4 is awsome! (Better than 3 in my opinion) My only complaint about season 4 is that it starts off strong, but finishes pretty weak (compared to previous seasons). But overall, it's strong and I'd say you definately should try to see it before the next season starts....
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Post by slickvic on Nov 28, 2005 21:32:30 GMT -5
I just bought Episodes 1-8 and the last 3 from Season 3...I tried to avoid the David Acevedo encounter down low....I think i did, what episode was this again? Well anyway I bought them used at my local HollyWood video
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Post by Jan El Señor on Nov 28, 2005 21:44:18 GMT -5
I just bought Episodes 1-8 and the last 3 from Season 3...I tried to avoid the David Acevedo encounter down low....I think i did, what episode was this again? Well anyway I bought them used at my local HollyWood video You need to see ALL of season 3 to know what's going on at the beginning of season 4. I know you just bought 1-8 of season 3, but I don't know if you've seen the rest. If you haven't, watch it before trying to watch season 4....
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Post by slickvic on Nov 28, 2005 22:41:08 GMT -5
Like I said I saw the episode with Acevedo givin head and the episodes around that...(I didnt purchase the DVD with those episodes), but i did buy the last 3 episodes of 3. So i have a total of 11 episodes from that season.
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Post by -|E|- on Nov 29, 2005 7:58:10 GMT -5
I think it's best to watch them all so you know the whole story. Season 4 was good. Really good, actually. Glen Close is scary talented.....
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Post by clitusvandam on Nov 29, 2005 21:08:38 GMT -5
actually, whenever i see the aceveda bj scene i just fast forward thru that part cause i cant stand to watch it lol
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Post by qb on Nov 29, 2005 22:01:54 GMT -5
Here's an interesting article about the Acevada rape scene:
'The Shield' puts male rape under microscope By William Keck, Special for USA TODAY LOS ANGELES — Around the set, the boys of FX's The Shield still refer to it only as "the incident," or even more elusively, "what happens in Episode 5." Months have passed since "the incident" was filmed in a rundown house in East L.A., yet an awkwardness lingers whenever the cast and producers are reminded of the degrading assault of their tough-as-nails police captain, David Aceveda (Benito Martinez).
The act, which is considered by many as rape, is retaliation for Aceveda's attacker being brutally violated with a bong pipe by Detective Vic Mackey (Emmy winner Michael Chiklis) earlier in the show. The resulting trauma will be explored for five more episodes, then appear to subside before being revisited in the season finale June 15.
A visit to the Hollywood set reveals that despite the healthy mix of Caucasian, black and Latino actors, FX's flagship series is very much a boys' club, where Chiklis and Co. continue to deal with "the incident" by engaging in macho banter.
Chiklis, who was made a producer this season, says he was the first to crack a joke during a read-through for Episode 5. "I felt such tension; everybody needed to (expletive) lighten up," says Chiklis, who makes his Shield directing debut with this season's ninth episode, in which Aceveda acknowledges the rape to his horrified wife. "We deal with the darkest aspects of the human condition every week. As actors, we can't live in that all the time — nor do we want to. It would end up being a real funky place to work."
Once he sprung his joke, Chiklis says, "everybody cracked up laughing; it was great. The jokes and puns starting flying, and we were all able to be OK with it."
But throughout the wisecracking, the cast and crew also were extremely protective of Martinez, often checking in on how he was holding up. Says Chiklis: "I came to him and said, 'Props man, for taking this on and committing to it 100%.' "
Although male rape is not a new subject in prime time —St. Elsewhere dealt with it as far back as 1986 — sexual assault has probably not been depicted in such graphic detail. Shawn Ryan, creator of the series, which drew an impressive 3.3 million viewers last week, says his intent was to present a story line that would stand out from the routine physical assaults seen weekly on TV crime dramas.
"We were talking about should David get roughed up, or have his life threatened, but we felt we had seen that before," says Ryan, who stresses that The Shield is not exploiting a controversial issue for a single episode's shock value. "I knew we really had to have an understanding of what this guy would go through afterward."
That's when Ryan and his researchers went to work to learn about the lingering effects of male sexual violation.
While crafting the multi-episode arc, Ryan gave Martinez an early indication that his life was about to change dramatically.
"I knew Benny was a family guy, a religious guy, so I gave him an early draft of the script, which is something I never do with the actors," Ryan says. "We owed it to him to do our homework and fully explore this taboo topic. But he was still nervous."
When informed of his character's fate, Martinez, a husband and father to two young daughters, was "excited and depressed at the same time. It's such a violent act. When you play a character, you often share the emotions of what your character goes through."
To prepare, Martinez made multiple visits to the Rape Treatment Center at the Santa Monica UCLA Medical Center to gain insight into the psychological ramifications and emotional toll associated with male rape. (In the coming weeks, Aceveda will become alienated from his wife and attempt to reclaim his lost sense of power.)
In the past, actresses from such acclaimed series as ER, NYPD Blue, Law & Order, The Practice and L.A. Law have researched their roles at the treatment center, but Martinez is a rare presence as a male actor.
On one visit, Martinez is given a tour of the clinic's medical room, where rape victims — about 5% of whom are male — are examined and searched for forensic evidence. (An estimated one in 33 men in the USA is the victim of rape or attempted rape, compared with one in six women.)
Martinez watches as a microscope focuses on a semen-stained slide and sees an examining chair that is fitted with a video camera. Both demonstrate the chilling reality of rape, no matter the victim's gender.
Scattered about the room are stuffed animals — playthings for the clinic's youngest victims.
While showing Martinez a graphic video of a rape survivor's firsthand account, the center's founder, Gail Abarbanel, recounts that just the previous day, a male UCLA law student had been in after being sexually violated at a campus party.
The mental overload causes Martinez, who has always been supportive of his real-life gay brother, to acknowledge a deep fear of having his masculinity called into question. His wife, Laura, has expressed concerns that their daughters may be teased at school.
"I'd be foolish if I didn't go into this realizing that a lot of people might make up their own minds about me, the character, and me, the actor," Martinez says. "Some men might say, 'If I was that guy, they never would have gotten me.' I've already had people say, 'How could you do a scene like that?' "
But Martinez says the opportunity to make people aware far outweighs any risk: "Shedding light on something — that's the good part of being a celebrity."
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Post by slickvic on Dec 3, 2005 21:31:14 GMT -5
yeah it was apparent they just didnt throw that scene in there, but at the same time I felt it was unnecessary
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