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Post by fudge20dip on Nov 7, 2008 10:06:59 GMT -5
Even though we know things will probably not play out like that, the fact that he is even considering going through the act of killing Mara while she is pregnant makes me feel guilty for cheering for this guy for the last 7 seasons everytime he escaped from being sent to jail or killed. If Vic did kill Mara I would reject everything this character once stood for. Through the majority of these seasons Vic gave us the kool-aid that the things he was doing was a necessary evil. Killing Mara would be just evil. In the second season he was willing to give himself up to protect the team. In season 5 he made a statement saying that he would trade places with Lem if it was just him. Would he do the same for just Ronnie if things get too hot?
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Post by badcop187 on Nov 7, 2008 11:06:33 GMT -5
No forgiveness would be need for Vic should he kill Mara. I really do not like her character, and it something Vic must do to protect himself and Ronnie. There is no way he can kill Shane and leave Mara alive. If he is to leave Mara alive, there is no point in going after Shane.
I am and will be a true Vic enabler to the end.
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Post by ikilledterry on Nov 7, 2008 11:13:24 GMT -5
For me it would be extremely hard to forgive Vic for intentionally killing an unborn child. If Mara wasn't pregnant then I would have no problem with Vic killing Mara. It's like Vic explained to Shane in the last episode, he's not the one who put Mara in the crosshairs, Shane did. Plus at this point Mara has even been encouraged by Shane to turn herself over to the police in order to keep her children safe from harm. She was even given a decent offer Claudette but it looks like that will expire. As far as Vic giving himself up for Ronnie, I definetly could see him doing so. However, I'm worried if Ronnie would do the same. Over this season Ronnie has continuely expressed how he's not going down for Shane or Vic. Of course he's not gonna burn for Shane, but shouldn't he come off as more loyal towards Vic?
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Post by bachatan on Nov 7, 2008 11:30:23 GMT -5
i believe vic would try to save ronnie if ronnie remains loyal
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Post by n00b on Nov 7, 2008 11:48:38 GMT -5
Vic all but lost my allegiance the moment he put the bullet between Terry Crowley's eyes. The whole series my opinion of Vic has slowly mellowed to the point where most viewers find themselves regarding Vic, uncomfortably on the fence not sure which way to lean - which is exactly where Shawn Ryan et al want you to be.
If Vic were to kill Mara and an unborn in cold blood, I believe it would tip the scales against Vic permanently for most viewers. So far, Vic has never purposely killed a "pure innocent" (everyone he's killed or caused to be killed has had some amount of dirt on them). But an unborn is the ultimate innocent, and my view of Vic would be permanently planted against him if he killed a pure innocent.
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Post by -|E|- on Nov 7, 2008 14:27:39 GMT -5
Wasting a pregnant bitch sure would make great television.
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Post by Symbiote on Nov 7, 2008 14:49:24 GMT -5
Vic needs no forgiveness from me. Although many things he have done have been illegal, and he's committed multiple murders, the majority, if not all, were justified in my eyes. Killing Mara wouldn't change that for me, pregnant or not. Perhaps if tons of people didn't abandon their babies every day, either through giving them away or abortion, it'd be a different story.
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Post by Cletus Van Damme on Nov 7, 2008 15:14:31 GMT -5
I also would have no problem justifying Vic if he killed Mara. I'm not saying that I'd enjoy it, but Shane put her in that position and Mara is willingly staying there.
I'm like badcop, a total Vic enabler. In fact, you know what I'd find great television: if Vic killed Claudette!
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Post by tigerlily on Nov 7, 2008 18:05:16 GMT -5
If Mara dies, I don't think Vic will be the one to pull the trigger. With all of this heat on Vic from Dutch and Claudette, there is no way that Mara, and Shane for that matter, could die and Vic would not be the prime suspect. I would like to think that Vic Mackey is smarter than that and will think of another way to deal with this threat. In any case if Mara dies, I will have to agree with E and say it would make great television if only because I will be shocked.
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Post by F*ckernando on Nov 8, 2008 11:24:41 GMT -5
YEEA....I can forgive him.......moreover....I'll invite him a few beers TO CELEBRATE YEEA!!! haha
but I'm 100 percent certain ....that is not goin to happen ...mara will live yea
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Post by cuffs on Nov 8, 2008 12:37:24 GMT -5
I strongly doubt that would happen. First, Vic is too soft about kids now. Second, Shawn Ryan would take a lot of shit about it... but then, would that keep him from doing something so shocking?? Hmmm.
As for Mara, she deserves it. She will go to hell, the baby will go to heaven. No prob. The bigger issue is what to do with Jackson. No way Vic can ice a kid who reminds him of his own.
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Post by jdog797 on Nov 8, 2008 16:23:15 GMT -5
I HOPE Vic kills Mara and the kid. Shane needs to feel pain, and yet Shane shoudl witness the murder. Also, if he is going to kill take out Claudette too. She needs a wake up call.
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Post by Strike Team 4 Life on Nov 9, 2008 22:49:41 GMT -5
Wasting a pregnant bitch sure would make great television. hahaha... I am going to hell for this.... but I could and WOULD forgive him!
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Post by sage on Nov 13, 2008 0:56:28 GMT -5
I think it would hurt Shane more if Mara went to prison and the kids to foster care or worse yet...his mother-in-law!
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Post by sage on Nov 13, 2008 0:57:53 GMT -5
Oh and if Tavon was the arresting officer...that would make it perfect for me.
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Post by axeman61 on Nov 14, 2008 2:00:17 GMT -5
I don't care if Mara had Jesus 2.0 in her stomach, I wouldn't feel any hatred for any man who puts a bullet in her.
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Post by -|E|- on Nov 14, 2008 10:03:40 GMT -5
^ I think I'm going to hell just for reading that one.
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Post by Lemonhead on Nov 14, 2008 10:05:28 GMT -5
I've already forgiven him. Wait. Mara's still alive... DRATS!
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Post by viroblade on Nov 19, 2008 2:31:41 GMT -5
Forgive him? I was rooting for him to kill the bitch.
She's been my most hated character on the show besides kav.
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Post by lapd187 on Nov 19, 2008 3:36:28 GMT -5
No forgiveness would be need for Vic should he kill Mara. I really do not like her character, and it something Vic must do to protect himself and Ronnie. There is no way he can kill Shane and leave Mara alive. If he is to leave Mara alive, there is no point in going after Shane. I am and will be a true Vic enabler to the end. Are you still with Vic now? i was with vic all the way but after he gave up ronnie i dont know anymore i think that was a bad move on ryan but im not a writer so who knows i just hope they make it up to us
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