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Post by chemikalman on Feb 26, 2008 1:05:41 GMT -5
Remember, Adam said the ending will not let us down. If you choose #5, say what you think will happpen in one sentence ... it can be a long sentence if punctuated properly.
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Post by scorpsik on Feb 26, 2008 10:36:52 GMT -5
One of the things I love about the Shield, is that in this case I can happily say 'no idea'. I am thinking Vicmay die... but death, prison and walking away clean all seem equally plausible with this show. Kudos to the writers for setting up such rich characters.
Personally, I would like to see Vic kill Shane (or maybe witness the Armenians killing Shane) and at the end, be brought down by Dutch. I think if that happens, Vic will take Aceveda down with him for arranging the killing of Juan.
Kavanaugh, though locked up, may still have strings to pull and be 'continuing' to dig around in Vic's affairs. Season 5 brought loads of possibilities out of the woodwork.
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Post by michael2008 on Feb 26, 2008 11:22:35 GMT -5
Vic will find a way the cover up his crimes, he always dose
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Post by WatchTheQuietOne on Feb 26, 2008 12:01:24 GMT -5
I think that Vic and Shane will have to come together in the beginning to try to bail Shane out of his mess with Rezian, and I also think that when things go wrong (Shane, Mara & Jackson go on the run), Vic, unable to save Shane from himself (I think Shane gets whacked by Armenians) and salvage his family (I think Corrine goes to jail, gets out and cuts Vic off from his kids permanently), decides ultimately to join the Feds in exchange for the Aceveda / Juan Lozano / Antwon Mitchell arrangement, the only way he can continue to 'be a cop' and to keep the heat off of himself.
How's that for one sentence, Chem? (I can hear the groans from my high school English teacher now)
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Post by chemikalman on Feb 26, 2008 15:24:11 GMT -5
I've seen a lot worse . If it's understandable (and yours is), it passes my litmus test. Some say the semicolon is the most under-appreciated punctuation; others say it's totally unnecessary (I just revealed my opinion on the subject). I see you've put some time into thinking about this and I like your ideas ... quite creative. If you end up being on the mark about any of these scenarios, you have every right to brag on yourself.
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Post by guy6324 on Feb 26, 2008 18:53:24 GMT -5
I think that Vic and Shane will come to some kind of understanding and get back together (they always do). That being said, Ronnie is the only one I can see walking away clean. I think that Vic and Shane will both end up either dead or in jail (Vic for sure would rather eat a bullet than admit guilt and go to jail). They have gone too far for either of them to get away with it in the end and for the show to have closure. But Shawn Ryan and the rest are a great bunch of writers and they have surprised me before; maybe they can make it work. I added a semi colon just for you, chemikalman
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Post by chemikalman on Feb 26, 2008 19:44:36 GMT -5
I think that Vic and Shane will come to some kind of understanding and get back together (they always do). That being said, Ronnie is the only one I can see walking away clean. I think that Vic and Shane will both end up either dead or in jail (Vic for sure would rather eat a bullet than admit guilt and go to jail). They have gone too far for either of them to get away with it in the end and for the show to have closure. But Shawn Ryan and the rest are a great bunch of writers and they have surprised me before; maybe they can make it work. I added a semi colon just for you, chemikalman I really like your statement "They have gone too far for either of them to get away with it in the end and for the show to have closure." And I do NOT think they will get away with it, either. From the way Adam was talking the finale is really going to rock us or our boats. So, hmmm, what could that mean? Well, one way is for a major character to get shot and probably die. Look at all the crying for Lem that's still going on. Are they gonna try to top that with a double homicide?
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Post by chemikalman on Feb 28, 2008 9:36:55 GMT -5
Well, I got caught in what I think should happen. Vic getting killed by Ronnie or Shane would bring the show full circle with what happened in Pilot. But that would be too predictable and Adam made it sound like we will be surprised so "none of the above" is probably the right choice.
But following the above logic, as if logic has anything to do with it, Shane and Vic should both be killed since they both took out a ST member. Hey, how about Ronnie killing both Shane and Vic? Now that really would be full circle, wouldn't it?
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Post by acc on Feb 28, 2008 15:00:53 GMT -5
The fact that Michael Chiklis evidently "got it right" in guessing, and says that nobody else will be able to, and that he only could because he plays Vic, makes me think it's going to be one of the most unpredictable events in the show's history.
I have no clue.
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Post by danimal12483 on Feb 28, 2008 20:48:09 GMT -5
i hate to say it, but, i think mackey will go to prison. all the shit he's done. like becca doyle said, people paid a price for what they do.
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Post by aussieangel on Feb 28, 2008 21:56:48 GMT -5
I submitted my vote, but the more I think about it the more I don't think Mackey will be taken out by a ST member. I don't think Ronnie or Shane will be in a position to do it. I don't like to cop out, but I think Vick is going to walk away without anything pinned on him. I'm going to have to rewatch every season again to get the feel for what might happen. I'm not reading anything on the snitch board this time round, I don't want ANY spoilers!
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Post by chemikalman on Feb 28, 2008 23:34:45 GMT -5
A reformed spoiler freak (reading even one spoiler makes you a spoiler freak) ... that's quite heart rendering.
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Post by guy6324 on Mar 1, 2008 10:12:56 GMT -5
I really do not think that Vic will walk away. Seasons 4, 5, and 6 have been about the ST's actions finally catching up with them. The Money Train and Terry's murder especially just will not go away.
I think a good ending would be for Vic and Shane to find a way to commit suicide in such a way that seals Ronnie off from prosecution and protects their pensions so that their families are taken care of.
But I do like chemilkalamn's idea about Ronnie. Ronnie really stepped up in the 6th season and he has started saying things like "can't we stop this?" So its possible that Ronnie could kill Vic and Shane so that he can end it.
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Post by khcameron on Mar 1, 2008 11:29:19 GMT -5
I was just watching the episode in season 2 where Vic gets shot. Maybe Vic and Shane will be forced into retirement and Vic will teach Shane how to play golf! A girl can dream!
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Post by poorlem on Mar 4, 2008 11:40:05 GMT -5
I chose #5. I don't think Vic would ever: allow himself to go to prison, commit suicide, or kill a cop in cold blood (one that he felt didn't really 'deserve it'). he's gonna lose everything painfully, and it's going to be awesome to watch!!!
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Post by acc on Mar 8, 2008 15:07:23 GMT -5
Okay, the more I think about this the more I firmly believe Vic will have to go fugitive and leave the country, probably going to Mexico ala Gilroy (successfully) and Lem (unsuccessfully). This series likes to travel in circles a great deal and Gilroy always represented what the future may have in store for Vic for all of his misdeeds.
If I *had* to guess, this would be what I'd say. Vic survives, going fugitive, with his entire life in shambles, running off to Mexico.
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Post by guy6324 on Mar 9, 2008 22:39:09 GMT -5
Okay, the more I think about this the more I firmly believe Vic will have to go fugitive and leave the country, probably going to Mexico ala Gilroy (successfully) and Lem (unsuccessfully). This series likes to travel in circles a great deal and Gilroy always represented what the future may have in store for Vic for all of his misdeeds. If I *had* to guess, this would be what I'd say. Vic survives, going fugitive, with his entire life in shambles, running off to Mexico. I do not think Vic can go fugitive. Since, FX has definitively declared this the final season, Vic and the gang have to die, go to jail or make it so that they are completely untouchable from their past actions. Vic fleeing to Mexico would leave too many doors open (EG Vic getting picked up by the Federales and extradited to the US).
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Post by Bad_Ass_Cop on Mar 10, 2008 15:38:30 GMT -5
How ever it ends, ie...Vick, Shane, Ronnie going to prison, killed, bouncing to Mexico, whatever, it had better be good. I would hate to see a season finale like Seinfield. Honestly I dont see that happening. This show has had lots of twists and turns.
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Post by acc on Mar 15, 2008 18:08:32 GMT -5
guy6324, what you say may very well be true. Vic simply fleeing and becoming a fugitive may not have the definitive punch to it that FX and the writers would like.
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Post by gachabi on May 7, 2008 14:06:53 GMT -5
I have mixed feeling about that situation.
1) Vic going to jail ? Wouldn't it be more or less the same than Vic being fugitive, ie no real ending (that would leave the questions of Vic being killed by someone like Mitchell or escaping) ? Plus killing a cop does imply the needle, no ?
2) Vic going to Mexico ? Remember that Gilroy widow talked to Claudette when Shane was (falsely) searching information about Gilroy and Mexico. So it would be quite easy for Claudette to find Vic.
3) The first reaction I have is to think that Vic will die. At first, il seems to me it cannot be otherwise : Vic having a calm retreat ? No way he could stand that, man of action that he is. And Vic has killed a cop, etc... We all know the reasons why Vic would die (and the many ways he would !).
4) But if he dies, what about the 2 autists children. It would be a drama for them to say the least. That's for me a reason why he should not die. At worst, he would have left money to pay their scolarity (another money train, anyone ?). This could be cut by the children dying but I think it would go too far.
So really I'm where the writers wanted to put me : in an absolute dark.
But from a personal point of view nevertheless, it would be very sad to see Vic dying. I don't want that.
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