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Post by -|E|- on May 22, 2007 10:56:29 GMT -5
From the FX website: "Vic learns he's being forced out of his job, despite recent efforts to be a team player. Shane crosses a dangerous line when he gets into bed with Diro, the daughter of an Armenian mob boss. Claudette begins to question Hiatt's loyalty and effectiveness. Vic finally comes clean to Ronnie about Terry Crowley's murder. ." From TVGuide.com: "Vic learns he's being forced out, despite recent efforts to be a team player; and Shane crosses a line when he gets into bed with Diro (Franka Potente), the daughter of an Armenian mob boss. Meanwhile, Claudette questions Hiatt's loyalty and effectiveness; and Vic comes clean to Ronnie about Terry Crowley's murder. ." From SpoilerFix.com: " A woman is stabbed in a store, but she seems a little out of her own surroundings. A boy is brought into the Barn by his dad to tell the cops that he witnessed a crime. A prostitute is robbed by a group of men. Aceveda is meeting with people to help him to further his political career." "The Man of the Wrath" was written by Chuck "Chick" Eglee, and directed by Ron Schmidt . Last weeks' ep, 6:07 'Exiled' ratings as of today: A - 7 B - 19 C - 2 ======================================== Was this a good episode? What rating did you give this episode and why? What's the most memorable moment? Why do you think this ep is titled "The Man of the Wrath?" What was the best line?! Private Message your nominations for the BEST LINE POLL for this episode to chemikalman or .:E:.!! We'll have the poll up in the SEASON 6 POLL BOARD by Thursday evening.....Please share your thoughts/comments on Episode 6:08!edit: changed thread title from "The Man of the Wrath" to "The Math of the Wrath."
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Post by -|E|- on May 22, 2007 10:58:35 GMT -5
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Post by cozmo236 on May 22, 2007 22:10:38 GMT -5
Well the episode descriptions were a bit misleading. Vic didn't exactly come clean to Ronnie. Shane is the one who told Ronnie. I found Ronnies reaction very interesting. When Shane first told him it seemed like he didn't like what he heard at all but then later on with Vic things were a little vague. His statement, "Page one of Shane's memoirs wasn't exactly new information", made it seem like he knew all along or at least suspected it. It's also interesting how his reaction differed from Lem's reaction to the same information. Lem was morally outraged whereas Ronnie seemingly looks at it pragmatically as something that "had to be done".
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Post by Strike Team 4 Life on May 22, 2007 22:21:37 GMT -5
B or B-
Ronnie is okay in my book. He really is loyal, he proved that tonight by saying he would have covered Vic better if he knew about Terry. Ronnie would kick Shane's hillbilly ass in a fight. I'd put a five spot on it!
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Post by Shullbit on May 22, 2007 22:28:17 GMT -5
LOL at Shane's "Snapple" line. That made the episode in my opinion.
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Post by jadedgirl on May 22, 2007 22:45:31 GMT -5
This episode gets a B+ and is so far in my top three for the season (which is Chasing Ghosts, Back To One and this episode). There's two more left.
So...the last person to know about Terry now knows about Terry. Or was he the last? Maybe Lem was the last after all. Ronnie certainly didn't seem so surprised when he found out about it from Shane. I think he suspected it over time and finally confirmed it when Shane told him. And as for his fallout with Shane...that was killer how Ronnie stood up for Lem. Okay, he mostly did it for Vic but let's not forget that bit he said at the beginning of the episode as well. What? I miss Lem and I'm glad Ronnie is pissed off about what Shane did. And speaking of Shane...what brass cahones to try to get Ronnie to side with him even though he's blackmailing him as well. Did he actually think that would work? Ronnie is the man.
And on the subject of Shane...you just have to love it when history repeats itself on a bigger scale and he never learns from either experience. He's not Vic and he needs to learn that and fast. As long as he tries to be no matter what and doesn't realize that while it may work for the goose and not the gander, he will screw this up big time-and Antwon didn't chop up body parts.
Hiatt may have endeared himself to the Vic enablers tonight but he may have also screwed himself over in the process. Claudette may not be loved by some (I like her though) but she's still in charge for the time being. And Hernan getting deeper into the rabbits hole without giving away anything in return probably didn't help either one either.
That other storyline was amusing and it help put the whole Corrine/Danny conflict in the ground which served some purpose- and it also gave Danny a great line. What is it with guys and pocket pool? A mystery of the ages.
It may not have been A worthy but it was still a good episode.
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Post by badcop187 on May 22, 2007 22:47:07 GMT -5
Hiatt has a secret crush on Vic I think. He sure took to Vic awfully quick. I bet he is trying to earn his trust. I am still not convinced Hiatt is not a mole (iad)
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Post by chemikalman on May 22, 2007 23:38:17 GMT -5
If Shane knows what is good for him, he'll take that Armenian $ and get out of town while he's still got feet. Of course, he won't. Lots of good lines in this ep but not much action. So, what's with Hernan? Is he starting to think he's got a future with the Salvadorans? I was hoping Danny and tina would get into a catfight in the purse store, darn. I guess nothing brings chicks together like a good purse deal. Hey, couldn't Tina get Danny in trouble for knowingly buying phony merchandise?
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Post by Inside Man on May 23, 2007 7:32:50 GMT -5
By the way, my Comcast guide called this episode "The Math of the Wrath." Anyone want to own up to watching the French episode? What was the episode title on the screen in the Shield font? (I kinda like when shows put the titles on the screen. It's like a throwback to the Seventies.) Also, this is the first episode that I've paid close attention to all the credits at the end and I noticed something interesting: This is officially episode 5.19. I don't remember the exact verbage, but right at the tail end of the credits, just before the Midd Kid Productions logo, there's that black documentation screen that every episode of every show has. "Math of the Wrath" (or whatever it's called) said: XXX - XX - 519
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Post by ShootFirst on May 23, 2007 7:51:54 GMT -5
My first C of the season. While others I saw as what you might call set up shows, this didn't even match that for me. It continued things along but could have been done a lot better. Ronnie gets the performance of the night for his reaction to finding out the truth on Terry.
The case of the San Marcos murders and Hernan better be setting up for a huge finish. I'm not trusting Hernan and the Mexican developer is showing how much of a snake he is each week he gets air time.
The fake purse thing was a story that was way too drawn out to show some type of common bond and/or temp. burying of the hatchet between Danny-Tina and Danny-Corrine.
Just not a lot else that got me excited about last night.
I did laugh my ass off when Billings tried to make the subtle move of taking his hands out of his pockets.
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Post by murt1987 on May 23, 2007 7:56:14 GMT -5
I liked the episode, gave a B again. Im just loving all of it really.Hernan,Hiatt,Shane and even the Danny/Corrine/Tina storyline. It just feels so................... real and natural. Im loving it I still have my reservations about Shanes involvement with the Armenians but Im sure we'll find out what happens to him in the last 2 episodes. 2 episodes to go folks, nearly over
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Post by Cletus Van Damme on May 23, 2007 8:11:08 GMT -5
By the way, my Comcast guide called this episode "The Math of the Wrath." Anyone want to own up to watching the French episode? What was the episode title on the screen in the Shield font? (I kinda like when shows put the titles on the screen. It's like a throwback to the Seventies.) Also, this is the first episode that I've paid close attention to all the credits at the end and I noticed something interesting: This is officially episode 5.19. I don't remember the exact verbage, but right at the tail end of the credits, just before the Midd Kid Productions logo, there's that black documentation screen that every episode of every show has. "Math of the Wrath" (or whatever it's called) said: XXX - XX - 519 My info also was that this ep is called "Math of the Wrath"... no idea how the FX site turned Math into Man. Just so you know, the title of the French ep was 'La Loi De Shane'
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Post by -|E|- on May 23, 2007 8:28:12 GMT -5
La Loi De Shane = The Law of Shane = Shane's Law When we were at the set last summer, the cast had a table reading for this episode. At the commissary, there was a sign on the door, which clearly says "The Wrath of the Math." Everywhere else on the web it's titled, "The Math of the Wrath." But at the FX website, it says "The Man of the Wrath" I like 'Shane's Law' myself.... This is officially episode 5.19. Yup. ;D
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Post by mackey07 on May 23, 2007 9:35:34 GMT -5
If Shane knows what is good for him, he'll take that Armenian $ and get out of town while he's still got feet. Of course, he won't. Lots of good lines in this ep but not much action. So, what's with Hernan? Is he starting to think he's got a future with the Salvadorans? I was hoping Danny and tina would get into a catfight in the purse store, darn. I guess nothing brings chicks together like a good purse deal. Hey, couldn't Tina get Danny in trouble for knowingly buying phony merchandise? I dont know, wasnt Tina about to say something when they cut to the next scene? It almost seemed like they were getting ready to bust this woman. I got the impression she was getting ready to pull out her badge, that the three were there just to get evidence, because none of that stuff was in the regular store. Dish Network also had The Man of the Wrath for the ep title as well. I would give the episode a B or B+. The episode description said something about Shane having a forbidden romance. Maybe if Vic and Ronnie find out, they can hold that over his head, dont think Shane's wife would be in the mood for anymore fooling around on his part. I'd say Ronnie really stepped up to the plate in this episode, I thought he was going to pop Shane there for a minute. The roller coaster continues...
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Post by finngirl on May 23, 2007 9:56:45 GMT -5
B or B- Ronnie is okay in my book. He really is loyal, he proved that tonight by saying he would have covered Vic better if he knew about Terry. Ronnie would kick Shane's hillbilly ass in a fight. I'd put a five spot on it!I totally agree & so does Shane, evidently when Ronnie was threatening something like "I'll throw down right here/right now" Shane said "I don't wanna fight you" Shane realized that Ronnie's loyalty would be a major equalizer (& then some) if they came to blows I appreciate friends like Ronnie when it hits the fan: loyal/clear-headed/pragmatic
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Post by chemikalman on May 23, 2007 10:25:51 GMT -5
The numerous great lines can be attributed to Chick Eglee being the writer. I think he also wrote the ep with the glory hole story line. And now golden shower reference. I think Mr. Eglee likes internet porn. That's where my sources tell me you find that stuff. ;D
Rohn Scmidt (sic) is the director? He's the main guy who does the camera work, I believe. Interesting.
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Post by gspot71 on May 23, 2007 11:04:10 GMT -5
I really liked how Ronnie was able to accept what was done to Terry and how he told Vic that he should have let him know sooner,that was great stuff.
I was a little disappointed in how he handled dealing with Shane. Was hoping for a bit more a pissed off reaction from Ronnie.
Anyone else think Hernan is already dead and Vic is really being played by whoever found out he was a snitch?
Lastly,was really glad to see Hiatt follow Vic's thinking instead of playing by the rules of "upper management" & him coming clean to Vic about him being done was huge
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Post by gspot71 on May 23, 2007 11:08:02 GMT -5
The numerous great lines can be attributed to Chick Eglee being the writer. I think he also wrote the ep with the glory hole story line. And now golden shower reference. I think Mr. Eglee likes internet porn. That's where my sources tell me you find that stuff. ;D Rohn Scmidt (sic) is the director? He's the main guy who does the camera work, I believe. Interesting. Yeah yeah,we know the truth
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Post by chemikalman on May 23, 2007 11:48:19 GMT -5
La Loi De Shane = The Law of Shane = Shane's Law When we were at the set last summer, the cast had a table reading for this episode. At the commissary, there was a sign on the door, which clearly says "The Wrath of the Math." Everywhere else on the web it's titled, "The Math of the Wrath." But at the FX website, it says "The Man of the Wrath" I like 'Shane's Law' myself.... This is officially episode 5.19. Yup. ;D Um, well, I would tend to go with the horse's mouth--the sign on the commissary window, hello!!!
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Post by chemikalman on May 23, 2007 12:05:47 GMT -5
Okay, let's assume it is The Wrath of the Math and look at the more interesting question: what the hell does it mean?
Some possibilities:
1. Shane calculating how much he needs to collect so he can get out of Dodge by doing side work for the Armenian boss' daughter (while at the same time shaking down the thugs who ripped off the Russian hos in the Armenian-owned apartment--bad idea, Shane).
2. The developer friend of Ass-invader calculating how much $ he will need for his "exploratory committee" or redistricting to strengthen his chances of winning his next race?
3. The number of solved murders it will take to keep the Barn open now that the list has increased.
4. The amount of action the Salvadorans want from the Mexicans to protect their drug operation.
5. The number of overtime tricks the Russian Hos will have to work to get back the money lost to the thugs who robbed them.
6. The money saved by buying "high quality replicas" of knockoff designer purses while rich bitches put themselves in harm's way of thieves. Okay, this is the least likely.
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