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Post by Jan El Señor on Jan 16, 2006 21:28:58 GMT -5
Oh! and regarding Vic's wife, she's hot and all, but I still think they used a stunt ass in the episode where Owen was tutoring Matt and Vic showed up at the door when she was pulling up her pants and we saw some sexy panties! I agree with that. If that's her real ass, she's real good at hiding her assets....
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Post by tylerdurden on Jan 18, 2006 0:57:18 GMT -5
I just thought of something else. If Tina is an IAD or federal spy planted at the Barn, that puts a whole new perspective on the scene when she says to Dutch, "I'm going to learn a lot from you, aren't I?" thats a great point, i dont really see her as iad or anything, but its defintely a possible, and very interesting angle and for the record, tina is hotter but id still do danny if she was 6 months preggo, theyre both hot in that uniform.
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Post by brokin6 on Jan 20, 2006 23:54:24 GMT -5
Yes, the actress who plays Corrine, Cathy Cahlin Ryan, is Shawn Ryan's wife. REALLY?? Wow, I didn't know that. Pretty cool. I think that she is really hot and definitely is starting to look better. Danny is not attractive to me at all. I think it's the squared shoulders. Tina is good for a one nighter but she is really dumb and will try to make it on her looks. I have seen a few rookies like her and they end up sleeping with a sergeant or another boss to get ahead (no pun intended) or end up working desk jobs. It's a pitty that alot of police women who are good looking never really take the time or effort to be good police. Either way my vote goes for corrine being the hottie til Tulips comes back
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Post by qb on Jan 21, 2006 1:33:15 GMT -5
When we first see Tina, with her sassy strut down the school hallway, I thought "Hmmm, a hot Latina who's going to know her shit!" Ah, not. Not even close. Not even in the same state! BUT I think there's still potential for her. I didn't realize she was rookie and, no surprise, she's making all of the mistakes rookies make...and the additional ones that attractive female rookies make. Tina is very insecure (thus her over-compensation in appearance, interaction with other officers, use of force, etc) but she's also driven by something--why else would an attractive petite woman even consider such a nasty profession? If she hangs in there, finds herself, and learns what she needs to learn... I can see a decent officer someday. If her morale collapses in the process and she hooks up with a superior, she won't last long.
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Post by brokin6 on Jan 21, 2006 2:09:23 GMT -5
When we first see Tina, with her sassy strut down the school hallway, I thought "Hmmm, a hot Latina who's going to know her shit!" Ah, not. Not even close. Not even in the same state! BUT I think there's still potential for her. I didn't realize she was rookie and, no surprise, she's making all of the mistakes rookies make...and the additional ones that attractive female rookies make. Tina is very insecure (thus her over-compensation in appearance, interaction with other officers, use of force, etc) but she's also driven by something--why else would an attractive petite woman even consider such a nasty profession? If she hangs in there, finds herself, and learns what she needs to learn... I can see a decent officer someday. If her morale collapses in the process and she hooks up with a superior, she won't last long. I would have to agree with you. My fiancee is petite and also a patrol officer and she has her head on straight. Lucky for me she settled for someone else in a blue shirt. :-) It is hard for women on the job but i sometimes wonder about the ones who cave. Alot of the times they are either too aggressive or not aggressive enough. It's a hard line to walk when you're 6ft 210 and you're going up against guys with prison builds so i would assume that it's harder for someone who is just plain old tiny. It would be nice if tina ended up being alot smarter than her new badge shows. She already showed she can be tough (what a hella beating that guy took) but she needs to be smart. My fiancee had nothing nice to say about her. It was funny hearing "she's the kinda girl that makes us look bad" come out of her mouth after she has made fun of me getting into the show a little too much. Can't wait to see what's in store with her.
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Post by dice on Jan 23, 2006 9:59:49 GMT -5
Tina is going to get herself killed, because she is a moron. She can't follow orders. She cares more about her slutty appearance than safety. She has a bad attitude. She wore hoops when told not do. She stored tampons and makeup in her vest, and took her plate out. She contaminated a crime scene. She used excessive force - because she was mad -because her earring got torn out - just like Danny said it would! I can't stand her, and am anticipating that she gets herself killed. A also GUARANTEE That Vic will not hook up with a weak, a$$ kissing tramp like Tina. Most of all, I feel sorry for Julian, having to work with her dumb @ss.
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Post by leadinvestigator on Jan 23, 2006 11:51:48 GMT -5
Tina is going to get herself killed, because she is a moron. She can't follow orders. She cares more about her slutty appearance than safety. She has a bad attitude. She wore hoops when told not do. She stored tampons and makeup in her vest, and took her plate out. She contaminated a crime scene. She used excessive force - because she was mad -because her earring got torn out - just like Danny said it would! I can't stand her, and am anticipating that she gets herself killed. A also GUARANTEE That Vic will not hook up with a weak, a$$ kissing tramp like Tina. Most of all, I feel sorry for Julian, having to work with her dumb @ss. Just curious on this. Do you have difficulty working with women in a military capacity? Have you got any female soldiers who make the cut in terms of how you would judge a male soldier? As much as I appreciate the abilities of women, I'll confess that I don't think they belong in combat positions (in any capacity on a battle field) and I am not sure they belong on the street as cops. I feel they are more hinderance than help, only because of the physical limitations on their part. Just because they have a need to prove themselves in every profession doesn't mean they should be in that profession. Same thing with women corrections officers in men's prisons. <preparing to have my head cut off now>
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Post by -|E|- on Jan 23, 2006 13:27:43 GMT -5
Just curious on this. Do you have difficulty working with women in a military capacity? Have you got any female soldiers who make the cut in terms of how you would judge a male soldier? As much as I appreciate the abilities of women, I'll confess that I don't think they belong in combat positions (in any capacity on a battle field) and I am not sure they belong on the street as cops. I feel they are more hinderance than help, only because of the physical limitations on their part. Just because they have a need to prove themselves in every profession doesn't mean they should be in that profession. Same thing with women corrections officers in men's prisons. <preparing to have my head cut off now> Hey, anyone seen that bucket?? *as she sharpens the blade on the guillotine...
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Post by leadinvestigator on Jan 23, 2006 13:53:42 GMT -5
Women, most often, are smarter than men. Why don't they stick to the brain jobs and let men do the brawn jobs? <feeble attempt to keep head off of chopping block>
As for Tina, something is wrong there. I can't believe she's that stupid and made it through the police academy. Either her training was woefully inadequate or she's pretending.
I don't know if she'll get herself killed, but she sure might get Julien or another officer killed!
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Post by chemikalman on Jan 23, 2006 13:55:18 GMT -5
Oh, wow, this thread is really heating up! I don't buy into the IAD theory on Tina. And I do think her inexperience is gonna get someone hurt.
As far as women not belonging in the police or military, well, I dunno, those are pretty bold statements. Women cops do pack heat, which is an immediate advantage. Also, have any of you guys taken on a chick who has a black belt in karate, TKD or some other marial art? Too bad Peach isn't around anymore. She and some partners are opening up a marial arts academy. Peach has pretty good size and I don't think I'd want to mess with her. Not in that way, at least.
And as far as Tina vs. Danny, I wouldn't kick either one of them out of bed. And, CC, excuse me ... Vic doesn't do hos or chicks who are weak? Guess it depends on your definition of a ho. Vic will do anyone he can when he's wearing his horns--as long as they're not a bitch. Notches on his belt include Lauren (K-9 handler), the woman who ran the abused women's clinic, the Armenian chick, etc. Tell me they weren't all weak! Admittedly, Danny is not weak, so you can't really generalize about who Vic will bang--EXCEPT my theory the "bitches need not apply" still holds unless someone can prove me wrong. Case in point: one noticably absent from the list is the woman who was a reporter doing a feature on the ST back in S02, I think (Lannie?)--she was a big-time bitch.
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Post by jinjue on Jan 23, 2006 16:58:01 GMT -5
I think, Lead Investigator, that you're making a lot of broadly sweeping generalizations that aren't entirely accurate on either end. Just as I strongly disagree that all women are physically weak and/or tiny and should therefore stay away from 'physical' jobs, I also strongly disagree that women are "most often [...] smarter than men". Ample proof to the contrary exists to contradict both of these points, and even if it didn't I'd think that it was a dangerous line of thinking just because of how broadly generalized it is regardless of proof to the contrary. It also strikes me as being marginally chauvinistic and more than a little 'pandering to the feminist agenda' at the same time, neither of which are things that I personally would recommend simply because both chauvinism and feminism (as it is now) are very unrealistic worldviews due to the extremely biased personal ideologies that define and fuel them.
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Post by jimmycracker on Jan 23, 2006 21:47:27 GMT -5
Oh, wow, this thread is really heating up! I don't buy into the IAD theory on Tina. And I do think her inexperience is gonna get someone hurt. And as far as Tina vs. Danny, I wouldn't kick either one of them out of bed. And, CC, excuse me ... Vic doesn't do hos or chicks who are weak? Guess it depends on your definition of a ho. Vic will do anyone he can when he's wearing his horns--as long as they're not a bitch. Notches on his belt include Lauren (K-9 handler), the woman who ran the abused women's clinic, the Armenian chick, etc. Tell me they weren't all weak! Admittedly, Danny is not weak, so you can't really generalize about who Vic will bang--EXCEPT my theory the "bitches need not apply" still holds unless someone can prove me wrong. Case in point: one noticably absent from the list is the woman who was a reporter doing a feature on the ST back in S02, I think (Lannie?)--she was a big-time bitch. Connie, the bottom bitch, all the hookers, they're what I call weak. Lauren, the clinic woman, the Armenian chick, they're not exceptionally strong, but they're not weak either. They're normal, average, just like Corrine. Rawlings and Hilary Clinton—they'd fit in the category of 'strong chick.'
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Post by qb on Jan 23, 2006 22:26:53 GMT -5
Lead, you chauvinist old goat!
I am going to go out on a limb and say I actually agree with you TO SOME EXTENT. You see women just pushing their way into men's space--men's golf tournaments, for example--trying to prove themselves... but at whose expense? Would (or is) the opposite acceptable? Rarely. Girls determined to play football in high school or even college. Frankly, they look ridiculous and, as a woman, I find it embarassing. Why not take all of that determination and need to prove they are as good as some man... and become an astronaut, a brain surgeon, a real estate tycoon?
In my opinion, Tina does not belong on the streets based on size alone. If that guy hadn't been struck just right or was high on something, he would have taken her night stick and rammed it in her ass. Essentially, Julian is protecting himself AND Tina. Very dangerous.
Ok, tell me why I am wrong...
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Post by dice on Jan 24, 2006 6:49:25 GMT -5
WOW!!! I did get y'all fired up huh? I'll tell ya what, I rarely work with women in Military, because I have a combat MOS. This is my experience, overall though. Being in the military, or being a cop, is not for everyone. I've done both. In the military, though, honestly... makes no difference if you're a man or a woman. When it comes down to it, that is. I'd take the soldier (male or female) that is disciplined and can shoot over the one that isn't. Now, I serve with some guys that are total crap, right? Plenty of women could beat the $hit out of some of these jokers. I think that one of the big reasons that they don't have women in combat jobs is that we work in such close proximety, that we'd have to worry about everyone screwing each other and women getting pregnant during combat. Not so much because they can't do the job. But, being weak is being weak, man or woman. The average man is obviously stronger than the average woman though. As far as police work goes... Using Danny as an example. Great cop. And when I worked as a reserve police officer, I knew a couple of great female cops. Gender has little to do with quality. BUT, I have noticed that women that are in leadership roles over men will often times "abuse" their power... and make a big deal out of their gender. Which is ridiculous. I have found that I have a harder time working for women, in general, NOT because I'm a sexist, but because THEY are. I've overheard some of the woman cops talking about writing tickets to guys because "I could tell that they didn't take me seriously because I'm a woman," and they made a big deal about it... like "there. I got you, and I'm a woman. Haha Take that. Man." A lot of women will take out their insecurities on men. But, again, there is no reason why a woman with a GOOD ATTIDUDE can't be an excellent cop or soldier. Unfortunately, those kinds of jobs will generally draw women with severe inferiority complexes. Men too, but not to such an extent. Women will often times make up for their lack of size with a big attitude. That is a problem that can get people killed, and make the service that you are with look bad (such as Tina beating that guy for no reason). Also, the whole "i'm pretty" phenomenon that Tina displays is a big problem. When its all guys, you don't have the flirting and stuff going on. Men act nuts around women too, so a lot of the guys won't work as well in mixed company. They will get super protective or defensive over the women that they "like," and look down on the ones that they "don't." Over emotional, if you will. That isn't needed in an occupation that requires you to "keep your head in the game."
Overall, as I stated before, public service jobs aren't for everyone. There is no need for people that are sexist, or racist, or any other bias in that line of work. There is no need for people that are self absorbed, power thirsty, or on a power trip. Men or women. I would say that the average man fits the bill as a cop/soldier better than the average woman, but there are women out there that are far more qualified for the job than a lot of men. Take it for what its worth, thats my experience.
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Post by jray on Jan 30, 2006 3:17:40 GMT -5
Tina is a babe. But I don't think she's involved in anything more than just being an officer. If she was, wouldn't IAD have tried to put her closer to Vic and the Strike Team? I mean teaming her up w/ Julian doesn't seem to be any closer to getting dirt on Vic than the old guy that used to run the cage. (By the way...one of my favorite Aceveda moments was when the guy retired.)
Bottom line, if I could have Tina or Danny, I'd take whichever one didn't want me to shave my back. That's where I draw the line. So more than likely it'd be Tina. Those latin women put less value on hot guys.
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Post by qb on Jan 30, 2006 23:09:28 GMT -5
Bottom line, if I could have Tina or Danny, I'd take whichever one didn't want me to shave my back. That's where I draw the line. So more than likely it'd be Tina. Those latin women put less value on hot guys. Excuse me?? I don't agree with that last statement at all. Hon, 95% of Latin men ARE HOT...hence, Latinas don't have to treat them like rare gems! The trick is getting them to date a tepid-blooded white boy.
You'd be surprised, too, how many women are ok with hairy guys. Not every girl wants to be with a man with less body hair than she has! A hairless guy is like a plucked chicken...and just about as appealing.
And if I found a bunch of back hairs in my Daisy shaver, I would be wearing some serious anger shoes.
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Post by badkittykitty on Jan 31, 2006 2:22:35 GMT -5
Bottom line, if I could have Tina or Danny, I'd take whichever one didn't want me to shave my back. That's where I draw the line. So more than likely it'd be Tina. Those latin women put less value on hot guys. Excuse me?? I don't agree with that last statement at all. Hon, 95% of Latin men ARE HOT...hence, Latinas don't have to treat them like rare gems! The trick is getting them to date a tepid-blooded white boy.
You'd be surprised, too, how many women are ok with hairy guys. Not every girl wants to be with a man with less body hair than she has! A hairless guy is like a plucked chicken...and just about as appealing.
And if I found a bunch of back hairs in my Daisy shaver, I would be wearing some serious anger shoes.Thank you! I really tire of stupid men making shitty remarks about Latinas like all we are good for is a bump and grind. Anyway, Tina's last name didn't sound Hispanic to me.
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Post by jray on Jan 31, 2006 3:45:47 GMT -5
Clarification: I wasn't trying to say anything bad about Latina women. My boss is one as are a few of my co-workers. I grew up in a town where we had a lot of migrant workers, and then as steady employment opened up, they slowly started staying. I have many friends that are Latina...
That said...
I've also worked at a number of service-oriented jobs where a good number of Latin/Hispanic people do business...and a lot of great looking women have less than average looking men.
Simple observation.
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Post by leadinvestigator on Jan 31, 2006 10:53:24 GMT -5
Thank you! I really tire of stupid men making shitty remarks about Latinas like all we are good for is a bump and grind. Anyway, Tina's last name didn't sound Hispanic to me. I haven't really heard men make shitty remarks about Hispanic women (well, maybe low-life HISPANIC men who can't get a hot one, can't control the one they've got, and feel all emasculated by Latina fortitude in general!! These losers resort to insults and fists to try to prove themselves "men") I believe a lot of non-Hispanic men are enchanted by Hispanic women... their beauty, their confidence, their romantic prowess. We wish a lot more white women would let go and be the strong beings that women are inside--determined, unafraid of their own sexuality, expressive about their passions. Too many white women are wishy-washy, whiny tighty whities...because society expects that from them. Compare Danny and Corrine to Tina and Tigre! I bet even Aurora was quite the spitfire before she settled for Benito Acevada! Not meant to stereo-type (though there is always some truth to stereo-types) but to praise the qualities of Latin women. I hope it's taken that way!
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Post by badkittykitty on Jan 31, 2006 12:12:59 GMT -5
Low Life men like that come in ALL cultures and races
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